DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON
SECTION: BEHIND THE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE ALLEGATIONS
SUBSECTION: WITNESSES
Revised 8/5/99

 

STRANGE BREAKINS AND THEFT
CLAIMING THE 5TH OR REFUSING TO ANSWER
FOREIGN WITNESSES, REFUSING TO ANSWER
AVOIDING TESTIFYING BY LEAVING THE COUNTRY
WITNESS THAT LEFT THE COUNTRY, REASON UNKNOWN
MEMORY LAPSES


STRANGE BREAKINS AND THEFT


Charlie Trie
Cheryl Mills
Mark Fabiani
Anthony Bizakis
Gennifer Flowers
Jerry Luther Parks

 

 

CLAIMING THE 5TH OR REFUSING TO ANSWER


* immunity granted
Susan McDougal Contempt of court
Susan Thomases Clinton Advisor, 108 non-answers
Webster Hubbell Former Associate Attorney General, 112 non-answers
Maggie Williams Hillary Clinton's Former Chief of Staff, 96 non-answers
Bruce Lindsey, Advisor, 70 non-answers
Neil Eggleston, Associate Counsel, 106 non-answers
Roger Altman, Deputy Treasury Secretary, 208 non-answers
Hillary Clinton, 60 non-answers
Bill Clinton, 37 non-answers
John Huang
Jane Huang
Man Ya Shih*
David Wang*
Keshi Zhan*
Gin F. J. Chen
Siuw Moi Lian*
Yi Chu*
Mark Middleton
Seow Fong Ooi
Joseph Landon*
Bin Yueh Jeng
Hsiu Chu Lin
Larry Wong
Duangnet Kronenberg
Jin Chin Hsueh
Na-chi "Nancy" Lee
Chi Rung Wang
Hueutsan Huang*
Jou Sheng
Yuefang Chu*
Yogesh Ghandi
Judy Hsu
Man Ho*
Steven Hwang
Jane Dewi Tahir
Manlin Foung
Gilbert Colon
Dia Maria Mapili
Yumei Yang
Irene Wu
Jie Su Hsiao
Arapaho/Cheyenne Indians
Mike Lin
Hsiu Luan Tseng
Hsin Chen Shih
Zie Pan Huang*
Mark Jimenez
Shu Jen Wu*
Michael Brown
Woody Hwang
Charles Intriago
Simon Chen
Sioeng Fei Man
Jessica Elinitiarta
Kent La
Craig Livingstone
Richard Trumka (threat)
Ridwan Dinarta
Yoahan Elnitiarta
Nora Lum
Gene Lum
Nolanda Hill
Terri Bradley
Maria Hsia
Lay Kweek Wie
Lai Bun Tsun
Richard Esparragoza
Manuel G. Garcia
Reynaldo B. Crespo
Raymund Dos Remedios
David Fried
Louis C. Leonardo
Juan L. Ruiz
Marcelino V. Brotonel
Enrique Sanchez
Ruth Ramirez
Charlie Trie
Carmen Lunetta
Len Keller
Jacob Delvalle
William Gearhardt

 

11/30/98 Freeper Michael Rivero reports ".FOX News just reported that Nathan Landow invoked the fifth amendment during his testimony before the Judiciary Committee looking into impeachment.."

Judicial Watch Press Release 2/22/99 "...During the deposition today, Mr. Stephanopoulos again gave testimony showing that he had not done an adequate second search, as ordered by the Court about one year ago. When Judicial Watch lawyers sought to probe him about specific aspects of the second search as ordered by the Court, he refused to answer questions and unilaterally walked out of the deposition...."

NewsMax 4/19/99 Wesley Phelan "...At the April 15 deposition Huang invoked his Fifth Amendment privilege a total of 419 times..... Among the allegations Huang refused to deny under oath were: seats on Commerce Department trade missions were sold for contributions to the DNC and the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign; then-DNC co-Chairman Senator Christopher Dodd told him to leave town in 1996, so he could not be served with the subpoena; he was in contact with White House officials during the period when he was avoiding subpoena; he was debriefed by DNC officials while avoiding subpoena; he requested reimbursement for travel expenses by the DNC while avoiding subpoena; President and Mrs. Clinton are his close friends and personally recommended him for appointment to the DNC; he passed money from PRC officials to the DNC; he passed classified U.S. government documents to the PRC while working at the Commerce Department; he received a security clearance to work at Commerce, even before he was physically employed there; he used the offices of Stephens, Inc., across from the Commerce Department, to communicate with Chinese intelligence; he asked for a parting bonus from the Lippo Group, his previous employer, in return for providing Lippo with classified Commerce Department documents; China Resources, a business partner of Lippo, is a front for Chinese intelligence; participants in the 1994 Commerce Department trade mission to the PRC passed classified documents to Chinese officials; U. S. government officials made arrangements for the transfer of satellite technology to the PRC during that trade mission; he had discussions with Ira Sockowitz about the removal of classified satellite documents from the Commerce Department; he shredded documents detailing his activities at the Commerce Department; he received assurances from Janet Reno's Justice Department that he would never be prosecuted for illegal activities carried out on behalf of the DNC and the Clinton administration; he discussed with administration officials retaliation against Larry Klayman, Chairman of Judicial Watch, for being subpoenaed to testify....."

AP 7/29/99 "...A former China-based U.S. diplomat and the State Department office that investigated him for possible visa fraud refused to discuss the case with a congressional committee Thursday. ....Jacquelyn L. Williams-Bridgers, the State Department's inspector general, also refused to talk about the case at the hearing. She said the Justice Department had advised her that discussing it could violate grand jury secrecy laws.....The inspector general's investigation of Parish was conducted jointly with the FBI as part of the Justice Department's probe of campaign contributions, for which a grand jury was impaneled. Democratic fund-raiser Johnny Chung told the same congressional committee in May that Parish helped him get visas for dozens of Chinese. Chung said he ended his relationship with Parish after the president of a Chinese beer company asked him to deliver ``a shopping bag of money'' to the then-consular officer....Committee Chairman Dan Burton, R-Ind., said he was appalled at Williams-Bridgers' refusal to discuss the investigation. ``This is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard,'' he said, saying it was typical of what he considered the Justice Department's stonewalling on campaign fund-raising issues under Attorney General Janet Reno. Burton said his staff found that foreigners are willing to pay up to $20,000 for a U.S. visa. He accused the State Department of bumbling its investigation of Parish, destroying documents before reviewing them and failing to interview witnesses or subpoena bank records. ``Everybody dropped the ball,'' Burton said...."

http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpwh0z.htm AP 8/5/99 "...Asserting his Fifth Amendment rights, former White House aide Mark Middleton refused to answer questions Thursday for a House committee investigating Democratic fund raising. ...Burton, R-Ind., asked a series of questions on the subject and Middleton asserted his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination in each instance...."

FOREIGN WITNESSES, REFUSING TO ANSWER


Ng Lap Seng
Stephen Riady
Roy Tirtadji
Ken Hsui
John Muncy
James Lin
Eugene Wu
Mochtar Riady
Stanley Ho
Suma Ching Hai
James Riady
Ambrose Hsuing
Lay Kweek Wie
Li Kwai Fai
Bruce Cheung
Wang Jun
Hogen Fukunaga
Yanti Ardi
Nanny Nitiarta
Daniel Wu

AVOIDING TESTIFYING BY LEAVING THE COUNTRY


Elizabeth Ward Gracen
Pauline Kanchanalak
Ming Chen
Antonio Pan
John H.K. Lee
Agus Setiawan
Ted Sioeng
Dewi Tirto
Subandi Tanuwidjaja
Felix Ma
Susanto Tanuwidjaja
Suryanti Tanuwidjaja
Yopie Elnitiarta
Laureen Elnitiarta
Sandra Elnitiarta
Sundari Elnitiarta

WITNESS THAT LEFT THE COUNTRY, REASON UNKNOWN


Arief Wiriandinata
Soraya Wiriadinata

MEMORY LAPSES


Bill Kennedy 233+116
Harold Ickes 148+270(campaign finance)
Ricki Seidman 160
Bruce Lindsey 161
Bill Burton 191
Mark Gearan 221
Mack McLarty 233
Neil Eggleston 250 (Travelgate)
John Podesta 264
Jennifer O'Connor 343
Dwight Holton 348
Patsy Thomasson 420
Jeff Eller 697
Webster Hubbell
Beth Nolan 179
Cliff Sloan 173
Bernard Nussbaum 158+60
George Stephanopoulos 142+102 - ordered to pay attorney fees and costs for his claims of memory loss during deposition that "are simply not believable." (Judicial Watch case)
Roy Neel 135
Rahm Emanuel 102
Maggie Williams 82
David Tarbell 1
Clinton - Executive Privilege, uncle Raymond's pressure on the draft board, meeting Paula Jones, making fund raising calls from the White House, conversations about money with David Hale, FBI Investigation (FBI Files,) Susan/Jim McDougals use of his money, that Vince Foster was working on their Whitewater tax returns shortly before he died, help provided to Webb Hubbell, that his plane was holding up traffic in 93 while he got a haircut.

President Clinton - Grand Jury - 140+

 

Washington Times 8/13/98 "In the portions of President Clinton's Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times."

MSNBC AP 11/27/98 ".EXCERPTS: "...Clinton...said he could not remember specifics of several important conversations both with Lewinsky and with his secretary Betty Currie...Regarding a Dec. 17 telephone call with Lewinsky in which, accordin g to Lewinsky's testimony, he told her that her name appeared on a witness list in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit, the president said he could not recall "particulars of such a call."...When Hyde asked him whether he admitted that he telephoned Lewinsky on Oct. 10, 1997 and offered to help her find a job in New York, Clinton said, "I do not recall that particular telephone call."...Regarding the question of whether, after his Jan. 17 deposition in the Paula Jones suit, he coached Currie about h is relationship with Lewinsky with statements such as "you were always there when she was there, right?" Clinton said "I believe I asked her certain questions, in an effort to get as much information as I could, and made certain statements, although I do not remember exactly what I said."... "

Judicial Watch 2/20/99 ".Today, George Stephanopoulos was redeposed in Judicial Watch's $90 million dollar class action lawsuit on behalf of the Reagan and Bush officials whose FBI files were improperly obtained and used by the Clinton White House.. Mr. Stephanopoulos was ordered by the Court to reapppear for deposition, because the Court found not only that he had not done an adequate search for documents before the last round of testimony, but that he also was not truthful about it. As a result, Mr. Stephanopoulos was ordered to conduct a "second search," as well as to pay attorneys fees and costs. During the deposition today, Mr. Stephanopoulos again gave testimony showing that he had not done an adequate second search, as ordered by the Court about one year ago. When Judicial Watch lawyers sought to probe him about specific aspects of the second search as ordered by the Court, he refused to answer questions and unilaterally walked out of the deposition.."

Associated Press 3/25/99 Pete Yost "…Repeatedly stating ``I don't recall'' and ``I don't remember,'' Susan McDougal testified Thursday that she had forgotten what little she knew in the 1980s about the fraudulent land deals at the heart of the Whitewater investigation. In her second day under cross-examination by one of Kenneth Starr's prosecutors, President Clinton's ex-Whitewater partner was confronted with information she provided to accountants in 1986 about the late James McDougal's failed savings and loan…. During two days of questioning by prosecutor Mark Barrett, Mrs. McDougal said more than 40 times that she did not recall various business deals. She said her former husband, who died in federal prison last year, handled most of the financial matters…."

Nation 6/12/99 Christopher Hitchens "....Huang has now been deposed by Judicial Watch in its landmark lawsuit against the Commerce Department and has been asked about his role as a Chinese agent, his role at the DNC and his role at Commerce. He has so far invoked the protection of the Fifth Amendment more than one thousand times, which is believed to be an indoor record (and invoked it in answer to such questions as "Do you recognize the late Ronald Brown in this photograph?")...."